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Central-Thirroul train trip faster 28 years ago

7/10/2008 4:00:00 AM
In 1980, the 5.06pm diesel train from Central to Thirroul took 75 minutes.

Today the 5.12pm electric train on the same route takes almost 10 minutes longer - 84 minutes if it is on time.

For the privilege, commuters are being asked to fork out up to 25 per cent more in fares, over the next four years.

Transport analyst Philip Laird maintains fares shouldn't increase beyond the Consumer Price Index unless four conditions are met.

"First we need to get the trains off valium. To speed them up a bit," Dr Laird said. And he wants timetables to go back at least to pre-May 2006 running times.

Dr Laird said his other two conditions - that new OSCAR carriages replace Tangara carriages on the South Coast and that delays due to signal failure between Waterfall and Thirroul are reduced - are being addressed.

Dr Laird, based at the University of Wollongong, submitted his research to the Independent Pricing and Regulatory Tribunal in July, anticipating the latest recommendation for a fare rise.

Dr Laird said the new distance-based approach, where those who travel further will be hit for higher fare increases, is unfair on South Coast line passengers suffering with a slow and infrequent service.

"People living in the North Shore (of Sydney) are getting a really good deal and should be paying a bit more," he said.

Under the pricing tribunal's proposal which would take effect in January, those using a weekly ticket from Kiama or Wollongong to Sydney could pay $9 more while those travelling from Thirroul to Sydney would pay $8 more. Weekly tickets between Kiama and Wollongong would rise by $7.

When the electrified line between Sydney and Wollongong opened in 1986, Premier Neville Wran said it marked a new era of "quick, comfortable train travel".

Dr Laird's submission noted the Government's failure to deliver on promises such as the high speed rail link between Wollongong and Sydney which was supposed to shave 15 minutes off the trip by 2010. "Instead journey times have padded out over the years," Dr Laird said.

He also called for a study into track capacity on the existing line to find out if the line could handle more passenger and freight services. "Such a study should examine potential improvements to Waterfall-Thirroul track alignment and triplication of Hurstville Mortdale along with the benefits and costs of completion of the Maldon to Port Kembla railway," he said.

NSW should be aiming for the standard Western Australia has reached with its new line to Mandurah - about the same distance from Perth as Thirroul is from Sydney, Dr Laird said.

A trip on that line takes 48 minutes - is at least 20 minutes faster than driving the same trip - and there are six trains an hour on the line.

At Thirroul, there are an average of two trains an hour, taking about 80 minutes to cover the 70km to Sydney. "We have a transport disadvantage in the region," Dr Laird said.

Action for Public Transport secretary Allan Miles urged commuters to fight the fare increases by writing a submission to the tribunal which will be considering the proposal until November 5.

Mr Miles said regular train users could buy a yearly ticket to beat the price rise. "Even without the fare rise a yearly ticket costs about 41 times the price of a weekly and you only have to queue up once," he said. "If you order a yearly ticket now you get a full year's travel at today's prices."

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For years I commuted to Sydney on trains that never ran on time. I currently work in London with someone who commutes three days a week from Paris. His train journey takes him two hours and ten minutes on a train that travels at more than 5km per minute. Maybe in the year 3000 that technology will get to NSW. It is ridiculous that the South Coast rail line is so slow, and the road no better. Sydney and its environs is the third world for transport.
Posted by Rahman on 7/10/2008 9:03:45 AM
Dr Laird, thanks for pointing out what is obvious to everyone except those in government. A fast, reliable rail service between the South Coast and Central is essential for the Illawarra to develop and prosper. It is our right! Wollongong commuters have been short-changed for decades and our representatives in Macquarie Street do nothing about it. Here's a challenge for our new Transport Minister, Mr Campbell - spend a full week, unannounced to rail authorities, commuting from your Corrimal electoral office to Central. I bet this would change your opinion on the efficiency of our rail services.
Posted by Obi on 7/10/2008 9:06:34 AM
The Illawarra is historically Labor heartland and there is no Illawarra lobby group applying pressure to improve rail services. So why would the NSW Labor Govt spend money to improve services on a safe seat. We have been taken on a ride to nowhere people...
Posted by mickg23 on 7/10/2008 9:28:51 AM
Too right they should speed it up, just cause there was one crash at Waterfall they slowed down the whole network....there are crashes every day on our roads but they don't reduce the speed limits so where is the logic? I remember when the trains were faster and cleaner and more comfortable - I ask any politician or Cityrail exec to try sitting on a Tangarra train seat for 80 minutes - it's torture.
Posted by Soot on 7/10/2008 10:15:47 AM
As a regular commuter, I would like to see those joining the train at Hurstville and Sutherland in the morning peak and departing there in the afternoon peak subject to more regular scrutiny and fines. Each day I see $4000 - $5000 of fines go begging, revenue that could subsidise the South Coast or at the very least commuters off the trains allowing them to proceed faster.
Posted by commuter on 7/10/2008 1:26:19 PM
"In 1980, the 5.06pm diesel train from Central to Thirroul took 75 minutes. Today the 5.12pm electric train on the same route takes almost 10 minutes longer - 84 minutes if it is on time." It seems we have gone backwards from 1980, but don't lose hope. It took 1hr, 45 minutes by steam train in the 1940s so there is some improvement.
Posted by Fergie on 7/10/2008 2:29:37 PM
If people create swinging seats in their particular areas, politicians will work hard to win back their support.
Posted by Lorna on 7/10/2008 4:13:53 PM
Excellent work Dr Laird, keep up the fight. Has anyone seen the City Rail website - when you click on the fare calculator and enter your origin and destination, the website invites you to compare what it costs to drive to work.

"You could save thousands" says CityRail and claims that it costs us $748 per week (yes, per week) to commute in a medium car from Unanderra to Central.

Sure petrol is expensive - but even at an average of $1.50, the petrol component of this $36,000 per year comes to just $6,480 (48 weeks x 5 days x 200km x 9L/100km).

What is the other $30,000 per year for? Are we all driving $100,000 cars that depreciate by $20,000 per annum?

These stats are apparently provided by NRMA, but are mysteriously no longer even available on their own website.

So CityRail would have us believe that rail commuting is not expensive by comparison - the annual ticket for the same stations is just $2300 (meaning commuting by medium car is more than 15 times more expensive than an annual train ticket).

Trouble is - how does anyone around here get to a train station? We still need cars of course (even though there's nowhere to park them at CityRail stations). So you still have to pay for some petrol in addition to the $30,000 per annum in non-petrol expenses that NRMA claim it costs to run a medium car (depreciation, insurance, registration, repairs etc).

Fair dinkum, this State Government has got more spin than Shane Warne.

Posted by Fair Dinkum on 7/10/2008 4:42:23 PM
The fact we are still suffering with a rail network that was built in the 1920s is a direct consequence of the Illawarra region having been a safe Labor seat for decades.

An alternative high-speed rail link is long overdue.

As for the problems with the existing rail line, Soot, the speed limits were not lowered after the Waterfall disaster.

The real issue was that for many years the train running times were repeatedly shrunk to make the political masters happy.

The Waterfall investigation merely identified that the timetable could no longer be achieved without train drivers exceeding the speed limits and that was putting lives at risk.

That problem was corrected with a timetable that is now physically achievable.

The problem that remains is that many people have formed their perceptions about journey times on the basis of the previous defective timetable.

Posted by Ted on 7/10/2008 4:56:31 PM
I've been catching trains for years, and to be honest, they are never really late. Maybe expensive but rarely late.

I'm just glad you people aren't behind the wheel of a car - imagine the road rage!

Posted by chris on 8/10/2008 8:08:07 PM

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